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    Question Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    Hello,

    I'm the guy who currently administrates the FN remote device access (RDA) setup (http://forum.nokia.com/rda) - and would like to raise a couple of questions about the devicebase. What devices / firmware-versions would you like to see in the system? Are you happy with what is offered there or would you like to see some other models there as well? What about the firmware-versions: is it enough for you to have the latest/rather recent SW (typical EURO-variant with english locale) or would you like to see also other versions or even different language variants?

    Feel free to comment. If you haven't tried the service out yet, now its' a good time to start

    EDIT: also listing the most recent updates to devicebase on this thread. If some the Nokia S60 device you need to test your application on is not currently included to the system, you can send me a request and I'll see what I can do. In most cases it might be possible - at least temporarily, add the requested device(/s) to the system.

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    Some S60 2nd edition devices would be good. I appreciate this is not as straightforward as adding 3rd edition devices, but it seems better to ask than to assume it is not possible.

    There are a lot of people using 2nd ed devices. The N70 is still being sold today for brand new 12/18 month contracts by at least one of the major operators in the UK (TMobile). The N90 would be especially useful (to me) being the only 2nd edition phone that isn't 176x208.

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    The system can support most of the S60 2nd edition devices, we've had for example N72 and 6630 there in the past (when the service was not publically available). If we get enough requests, then we can take this into consideration.

    Btw. The RDA service was unavailable through out the weekend because of an update. Now it's up and running normally again. For example E90 has now the correct skin with correct screensize.

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    That's good to hear. I'd like to see an N70, because a lot of customers own them, and an N90, because its screen was unique.

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    This service is very useful for developers. Thank you very much. Nokia is number one in term of supporting developers.

    If you can add Nokia 6110 navigator phone then it will be good. I have tested my application with Nokia N95. However, I can not enable GPS in N95 remote device. Can you enable GPS in N95 and 6110 by default so that developers can test the GPS feature? The N95 remote devices are indoor, so is there a way to get GPS fix?

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    Hello vgps,

    thanks for the comments. The problem indeed is that the devices are located in a lab and can't connect to the satellites. The solution I have in mind is to get a bluetooth GPS receiver and place it somewhere near a window yet still close enough to the server rack so that the devices can connect to it. This might or might not work, I guess I'll have to try it someday.. Of course this would not be the same as the internal GPS receiver of N95, but the next best thing (and enable GPS also for other device models).

    Support for 6110 was just recently added to the system, so it might be possible to have that device on the system.. However the inbuild GPS would still be useless.

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    I'm confused by this new UI.
    Sometimes I close a Test phone UI, press [Start] in the 'Your reservations' section to restart the UI. But sometimes,
    It doesn't appear in the 'Your reservations' section,
    sometimes it goes into the 'Available Later' section -
    which means I can't access my test session until it times out!

    Also. It harder to extend a reservation now.
    I keep getting "reervation must have 15 min safety margins"
    simply when you try to drag and extend the green reservation block.


    Thirdly, when trying to select a device for testing it is easy to
    erroneously select another device under the popup list which
    means you use up a credit on a device that you didn't want.
    This happened to me today.

    The new interface is pretty, but it just fails on user friendliness & usability .

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    Another strange thing that happens to me..
    If I try to extend my reservation by dragging the green block
    it will book the reservation - but _not_ to me!!

    The webpage says the device will be available later, and I have to
    wait 30min or 1 hour (or however long I attempted to extend my reservation for)
    until the time expires.

    It doesn't get listed under the 'Available Now' section that should
    allow me to Start (continue) my session.

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    parisn & astonw:

    thanks for the feedback. The problem with relaunching devUI sounds strange (I have not crossed into this). If you have active reservation for a device, it will be listed in "phones"-tab under "your reservations". Then as you hold mouse pointer on top of the device icon you should see "start" button which you can use to launch the devUI.

    Extending reservations does not work properly at the moment. Due to the 15min "safety margin" you can't instantly continue a previous reservation, but would have to leave a empty slot in the between the reservations. This will hopefully be fixed sometime soon. It's just a glitch in the reservation system logic.

    As for possible usability issues, if you have good suggestions on how to fix them, I can pass them forward Perhaps removing the "confirm reservation" step was not all for the good.

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    Quote Originally Posted by mike_brock
    There are a lot of people using 2nd ed devices. The N70 is still being sold today for brand new 12/18 month contracts by at least one of the major operators in the UK (TMobile). The N90 would be especially useful (to me) being the only 2nd edition phone that isn't 176x208.
    Adding 2nd editon devices would definately be useful.


    Also, being able to test opengles application would be of great help for game developers.

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    I would like to see several devices which are distributed in Russia and CIS markets, becouse as far as i know none of them included in this list

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    snaptimismus: what device models might that be?

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    well, for instance, 6131,6280....Basically, phones those are avaible with firmware which is distirbuted in CIS(Russia) markets, I personally interested in simmple models but supporting MIDP 2.0

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    The RDA devices are all based on Symbian OS. The devices you list are S40 devices with a Nokia proprietary real-time OS, and without the required device-side software for RDA use.

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    Re: Questionnaire about RDA devices / firmware versions

    That's correct, the current setup can unfortunately only handle Symbian based devices. We are investigating the future options though.

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