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    Nokia 5140i and NDEF messages

    Hello everyone.

    I have a JSR-257 application for the Nokia 6131 NFC which writes and reads NDEF messages to Mifare UL tags. Now I have to support the old Nokia 5140 phone with RFID cover, which does not support NDEF of course by default. The tags should be written and read with the 5140 too.

    Is there any open source / freely available NDEF message / NDEF record implementation for Java ME?

    Or is it posibble/legal to extract and use the NDEF classes of the 6131 SDK in a 3rd party application as a library? I do not think this is permitted at all! (I have not found any text in the License that permits this...)

    Thanks for your advice!

    Sandor Juhasz.

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    Re: Nokia 5140i and NDEF messages

    Hi everyone.

    As I have not found any information at all on the net, and there were nobody in the forum who has faced this kind of problem, I started to write my own NDEF implementation. As the NDEF is an open standard, I can do it freely.

    After creating my first "hand made" NDEF message and writing to a Mifare UL, I realized that it is not compatible with the 6131 NFC device. After some debugging I found that the 6131 NFC puts the decimal [ 3, 22 ] magic numbers at the beginning of the tag, before the actual NDEF message.

    Is there any way to get any information about these magic numbers, and their meaning?

    Thanks a lot.
    Sandor.

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    Re: Nokia 5140i and NDEF messages

    Hi Sandor,

    I'm really interested in the point your are working on, but unfortunately, I didn't have the time to work on the same field as I'm working on managing the NFC/Databases applications already running.

    For one year now, we are using 3220 and 5140i as NFC reader and remote web clients. The new 6131 NFC looks like an interesting alternative. But the question of preparing the futur of NFC tag configuration is a key point.

    I would like to keep in touch with you to share some informations about the subject as long as no one seems to be concerned. You can contact me through my personnal profil email link.

    Thierry

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    Re: Nokia 5140i and NDEF messages

    Hello !!

    my question is a near :

    why when i use the JSR 257 API (nokia), the program i make works very nice on emultion, and not on my 5140i (with the RFID cover) ?

    i ve got a error for TargetListener at the start ...
    anyone can help me ?


    thank a lot !

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    Re: Nokia 5140i and NDEF messages

    5140i note has JSR 257.
    TargetListener only for Nokia 6131 NFC!!!
    !!!See you please doku!!!
    You uses the SDK (Emulator) of the Nokia 6131 NFC or prototype S3.0?!
    Last edited by mariosas; 2007-08-07 at 13:45.

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    Re: Nokia 5140i and NDEF messages

    To read write NDEF messages with 5140i and 3220 with shells is possible with Toolbox 2.1 SDK. It could be bought at Top Tunniste.
    http://toptunniste.fi/topshop/produc....php?p=26&c=14

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    Re: Nokia 5140i and NDEF messages

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonalain View Post
    Hello !!

    my question is a near :

    why when i use the JSR 257 API (nokia), the program i make works very nice on emultion, and not on my 5140i (with the RFID cover) ?

    i ve got a error for TargetListener at the start ...
    anyone can help me ?


    thank a lot !
    I'm afraid you can't use the JSR 257 for that phone... Are you sure that your phone supports JSR 257? Although some of the packages of JSR 257 are focused on RFID functionality, the API is known to be implemented only on 6131 NFC, and even on that handset, it is not fully implemented (the visual tags are not supported)

    In the product specifications, the JSR 257 is not mentioned, so if I was to guess how it works on 5140, I would say it uses a specific API from Nokia (and not JSR 257 which is a community driven Specification Request)

    Best regards

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    Re: Nokia 5140i and NDEF messages

    thanks a lot ... yes ... your answer is right !

    i m sad ... Nokia wants to implement RFID solution in their phone ...

    but nowadays, their 5140 RFID shield are sold out !!

    i don t understand that !

    ...

    we have buy one day ago 50 phones (5140i) ....
    and now we can pass to the rfid solution ... we can't buy the shields !!

    and our unic solution is to buy 50 6131NFC !!!



    sad day ...

    is anyone have a idea to have a phone and a RFID reader in a same objet ?

    thans a lot!!

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    Re: Nokia 5140i and NDEF messages

    Quote Originally Posted by dragonalain View Post
    thanks a lot ... yes ... your answer is right !

    i m sad ... Nokia wants to implement RFID solution in their phone ...

    but nowadays, their 5140 RFID shield are sold out !!

    i don t understand that !

    ...

    we have buy one day ago 50 phones (5140i) ....
    and now we can pass to the rfid solution ... we can't buy the shields !!

    and our unic solution is to buy 50 6131NFC !!!



    sad day ...

    is anyone have a idea to have a phone and a RFID reader in a same objet ?

    thans a lot!!
    is anyone have a idea to have a phone and a RFID reader in a same objet ?
    What is to be called????

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