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  1. #1
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    7650 and MS Bluetooth Transceiver

    Hi,
    Just wanted to know if some1 managed to get PC Suite for 7650 working with an MS Bluetooth transceiver (the one with the MS Bluetooth Desktop or MS Bluetooth Mouse). The drivers provided by MS for the adapters does not support Serial Profiles.
    I didn't managed anything to get working with the 7650, except the pairing btw the transceiver and the phone. All the rest fails.

    Here is a the statement from an MS representative, coming from a newsgroup :


    >From: DaMNeD (damned@free.fr)
    >Subject: Re: XP Bluetooth (wireless mouse and keyboard)
    >View: Complete Thread (12 articles)
    >Original Format
    >Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mshardware.product
    >Date: 2003-01-05 15:18:06 PST

    >Yes, totally agree with Mark about this Doron. Why once again MS >would state
    >a way of doing things while 90% of others are doing the others way? >I am
    >agree for setting up a standard that everyone respects, but if you >start
    >setting up a standard that no-one else uses @ the moment without >giving any
    >kind of backward compatibility to older products / way of doing >things, you
    >just kill your standard.
    >So my question is simple Doron, is there some intentions at MS to >make some
    >compatibles drivers that would provide Bluetooth Serial Support for >the MS
    >Bluetooth Transceiver, or is this not at all the will of MS to do >this?
    >If the answer is the 2nd, consider you have lost again one >customer, and
    >count on me for spreading about this incompatibility.


    >"Mark Lambourne" <markl@NOSPAMukgateway.net> wrote in message
    >news:AN2S9.2580$xE1.408055@stones...
    > Once again Doron, if Microsoft changed the serial profile support in the
    > Windows XP Bluetooth stack then there would be no need to do this.
    >
    > It is unreasonable to expect every vendor to re-write their applications to
    > support your new way of doing things. Why not just provide virtual COM ports
    > and be done with it, and stop people suffering from these problems? It would
    > make the Windows XP Bluetooth stack a MUCH better product.
    >
    > Mark
    >
    > "Doron Holan [MS]" <doronh@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > news:OiXK1RPtCHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP12...
    > > you need to contact nokia about sync support, the MS stack provides basic
    > > services, but since each sync application requires vendor specific
    > > functionality, the vendor must provide this.
    > >
    > > d
    > >
    > > --
    > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    > > "DaMNeD" <damned@free.fr> wrote in message
    > > news:av90e6$e91$1@news-reader12.wanadoo.fr...
    > > > I use a Nokia 7650, it supports OBEX, but it does not work with MS Bluetooth
    > > > transceiver. (even for file transfers)
    > > > Will MS make new drivers that support serial profile for the Bluetooth
    > > > transceiver? Most of the consummers bluetooth applications use serial
    > > > profile, just wondering why MS isn't.
    > > > Thx for any answer, appreciated
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > "Doron Holan [MS]" <doronh@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:uBlH9AvsCHA.2540@TK2MSFTNGP10...
    > > > > the protocol that the app below uses is standard across all bluetooth
    > > > > devices. once you pari your nokia with the PC, the app should work with
    > > > > your phone as well (if it supports obex sync).
    > > > >
    > > > > d
    > > > >
    > > > > --


    My question is simple, what is nokia's statement about this? Gonna try to make MS Compatible way of sync for nokia's software, or just going on using serial profiles way and waiting for MS to make more "compatible drivers"?

  2. #2
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    RE: 7650 and MS Bluetooth Transceiver

    A quotation from http://www.nokia.com/cda1/0,1080,2015,00.html :

    "To install and run PC Suite for the Nokia 7650 Phone, you need:
    -A compatible PC running Windows 98, Windows ME, or Windows 2000 with Service Pack 2.
    -At least 110 MB of free disk space.

    To connect your Nokia 7650 Phone to the PC, you need to have:
    -An infrared port on the computer
    OR
    -A Bluetooth card and the required software, or built-in support for Bluetooth on the PC. To be able to connect your Nokia 7650 to your PC the Bluetooth software needs to support Serial Port Profile (SPP)."


    So in case of embedded Windows XP Bluetooth stack the requirements are not fulfilled: Windows XP is not supported by the PC Suite and there is no Bluetooth Serial Port provided by Microsoft Bluetooth stack.

    Seppo
    Forum Nokia

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