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  1. #1
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    limitations of codewarrior?

    why everyone is suggesting to shift from codewarrior to
    carbide.c++?
    is really codewarrior obsolete?

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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    Sorry to say, but yes it is obsolete.

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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    CodeWarrior is no longer developed or supported (see end-of-life announcement) and the focus has been moved towards Carbide.c++. While of course you can still use it there is no guarantee that future SDKs and tools will be compatible with it.
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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    It also depends on what you mean on obsolete...
    - CodeWarrior is still faster and more reliable than Carbide, it is also smaller in size
    - on the other hand CodeWarrior is discontinued, and future (or even most recent?) SDK-s are probably not supporting it
    If you have a good CodeWarrior configuration (valid license, working toolchain - S60 3rd MR for example), and you are able to program on your own (do not want to depend on Carbide's UI designer, etc.), it still works. But it is not future-proof.
    Last edited by wizard_hu_; 2008-09-04 at 15:54. Reason: "means" became "depends on"

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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    what was the reason behind closing down codewarrior?
    does carbide.c++ have any advantages over codewarrior which
    forced developers to close the chapter of codewarrior?
    why is it obsolete?
    are there any technical reasons?

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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    If I recall right.
    CodeWarrior IDE was originally written for Macintosh and was ported to Windows using a tool (like QT) that remaps the code to Windows Native. (compiler engines and build engines were native) Eventually this led to a framework that was portable over both Mac and Windows. At this point Nokia purchased CodeWarrior from Freescale.

    Now why it is not used anymore is not because the compiler, debugger or build engines are bad, they are the same as they are plugins to the IDE. The reason to go with an eclipsed based IDE is that it provides more options when it comes to things like debugger, emulators, obfuscators, graphical plugins and so on. Eclipse provides a lot of extensions that would need to have to be created and designed specifically for CodeWarrior.

    Trying to create and maintain the extensions for two differnet IDEs is impractical, so CodeWarrior was put aside.

    I think Nitendo and Sony Playstation still have CodeWarrior IDEs of course the cost for those tools in in the thousands of dollars and pretty much custom built for each game development company.

    Come visit my museum of Metrowerks gear (glow in the dark briefs and Gear Head hawiian shirts as well as every CodeWarrior built from DR1 to CW 10 (the second time around).

    Speical bonus points to whomever names the original author of the IDE.

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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nokia Ron View Post
    Speical bonus points to whomever names the original author of the IDE.
    My quess would be: John McEnerney

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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    Quote Originally Posted by symbianyucca View Post
    My quess would be: John McEnerney
    I'll say Michael Kahl
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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    Quote Originally Posted by symbianyucca View Post
    My quess would be: John McEnerney
    He wrote ThinkPascal (some say the best developer tool every designed) but not CodeWarrior (he was one of the original team and did work on the tools)

    (I always thought the McEnery convention center in San Jose was named after John and they screwed up spelling)


    Ron

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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nokia Ron View Post
    Speical bonus points to whomever names the original author of the IDE.
    First hit on Google for CodeWarrior history is an interview with John McEnerney, and he says that Andreas Hommel laid down the origins (both for the IDE and the compiler), then names Berardino Baratta and Marcel Achim as IDE developers.

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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    5 bouns points for wizard_hu_

    You can name drop a few other CodeWarriors in this MacTech Article from ten years ago.

    Ron

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    Re: limitations of codewarrior?

    I love bonus points, thank you very much Ron :-)

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