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    Question Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    hi Nokia Developer,

    i saw a BUG in Nokia almost new phones A-Z sort is not work properly
    i think its a bug.
    please have a look into the screenshot



    here the above screenshot, you see i try to search the Name the letter start with "m"
    but you see it shows the letter start with "B".
    however there is some letter "m" in the word
    it has to be show the name start with "m" letter
    (eg)
    Ma
    Mb
    Mc
    .
    .
    .
    then finally it has to show
    Badrudhin K M

    same like i have an example for your reference the letter start with "g" and "t"
    and you see the result not sorted A-Z
    i am sure definitely it's a BUG in the contacts list
    please kindly fix as soon as possible in the forth coming firmware in all Nokia Models

    thanks for taking a time to read and understanding

    thanks and best regards,
    testvoipn79

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by testvoipn79 View Post
    hi Nokia Developer,

    i saw a BUG in Nokia almost new phones A-Z sort is not work properly
    i think its a bug.
    please have a look into the screenshot



    here the above screenshot, you see i try to search the Name the letter start with "m"
    but you see it shows the letter start with "B".
    however there is some letter "m" in the word
    it has to be show the name start with "m" letter
    (eg)
    Ma
    Mb
    Mc
    .
    .
    .
    then finally it has to show
    Badrudhin K M

    same like i have an example for your reference the letter start with "g" and "t"
    and you see the result not sorted A-Z
    i am sure definitely it's a BUG in the contacts list
    please kindly fix as soon as possible in the forth coming firmware in all Nokia Models

    thanks for taking a time to read and understanding

    thanks and best regards,
    testvoipn79
    Welcome to the Forum!!

    I dont think this is a bug. Its just basically showing all the entries containing the letters that you type (in order..sorted alphabetically!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Symbian_Neil View Post
    Welcome to the Forum!!

    I dont think this is a bug. Its just basically showing all the entries containing the letters that you type (in order..sorted alphabetically!!)
    thank you so much for your kind reply
    it has to be ordered A-Z am i right
    what if i have so many names the letter "m" in the middle eg: 10
    if i want to dial a name started with letter "m"
    do i have scroll then find out name start letter with "m"

    just curious is that no possible fix

    thanks and best regards,
    testvoipn79

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    There is no issue to fix, that is all
    - the names are presented in alphabetical order in every screenshot provided in this thread - H<Tah<Taj<Tam, A<Gi<Gr<Gu, B<G<H<J<Mah<Maideen<"Maideen (" - you can swap display order of first and last names in Settings if you want
    - the search functionality matches the character sequence you are typing to the beginning of words in your contact list - that is why "Badurdhin K M" or "Junaitha (fairose mom)" also appear for 'm' - because this way it does not matter if someone types the complete name in one field (say first name) or swaps first and last names for example

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by Symbian_Neil View Post
    Welcome to the Forum!!

    I dont think this is a bug. Its just basically showing all the entries containing the letters that you type (in order..sorted alphabetically!!)
    Hi with do respect i think this is bug!
    cos this problem is in s60 models like N79, N82 and E65 etc,
    but if u see the s40 models like 8800, and models like that it works perfect,


    Example: - bug

    Abu baker
    kadir valu

    when u pres "k" it should show only kadir valu matching the first letter,
    but instead its matching the first available letter which is Abu baker.

    so this is bug hopefully Nokia team can solve this

    Thanks & Regards
    Faiyas

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by faiyas View Post
    Hi with do respect i think this is bug!
    cos this problem is in s60 models like N79, N82 and E65 etc,
    but if u see the s40 models like 8800, and models like that it works perfect,


    Example: - bug

    Abu baker
    kadir valu

    when u pres "k" it should show only kadir valu matching the first letter,
    but instead its matching the first available letter which is Abu baker.

    so this is bug hopefully Nokia team can solve this

    Thanks & Regards
    Faiyas
    Well, Actually S40 were not 'smart' enough I should say with their searches!!

    Here, the search system is much smarter. Even if you dont remember the exact and full number of a contact, you still have a chance of locating it with a few 'part' name getting correct. Thats how this search system is supposed to work..and meant to work Its deliberately designed that way dear

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by wizard_hu_ View Post
    There is no issue to fix, that is all
    - the names are presented in alphabetical order in every screenshot provided in this thread - H<Tah<Taj<Tam, A<Gi<Gr<Gu, B<G<H<J<Mah<Maideen<"Maideen (" - you can swap display order of first and last names in Settings if you want
    - the search functionality matches the character sequence you are typing to the beginning of words in your contact list - that is why "Badurdhin K M" or "Junaitha (fairose mom)" also appear for 'm' - because this way it does not matter if someone types the complete name in one field (say first name) or swaps first and last names for example

    with respect i totally disagree with your comments this is nothing to do with first name or last name.

    because even with one name it does the same

    example:-

    baker
    kader

    if u press k it should show only kader matching the first letter
    but it show baker and then kader matching the first available letter
    cos k is there in baker too.
    i hope it can be fixed


    Thanks & regards
    Faiyas
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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by faiyas View Post
    with respect i totally disagree with your comments this is nothing to do with first name or last name.

    because even with one name it does the same

    example:-

    baker
    kader

    if u press k it should show only kader matching the first letter
    but it show baker and then kader matching the first available letter
    cos k is there in baker too.
    i hope it can be fixed


    Thanks & regards
    Faiyas
    Nokia N79
    Well..think of a situation where you remember you are searching for some name which is something like 'ker' (you have in mind baker. So try typing k..e..r, thats it you have it!!
    Go beyond typing just one alphabet and think beyond words starting with when you associate search system. Searches are often with words 'containing' some item. Thats the functionality which is of use.
    If you want to search words starting with some 'm' you can always scroll type 'm' scroll down a little and you have all starting with 'm' Anyway if you were going to scroll down to search through contacts starting with 'm' you would do the scrolling anyway
    So think of more use cases than just words beginning with some single alphabet

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by faiyas View Post
    with respect i totally disagree with your comments this is nothing to do with first name or last name.
    The first name-last name part was about what you see in the screen (regardless of using search or not). In the settings of the Contact application you can choose between "Last name First name", "Last nm., First nm.", "First name Last name". Then the displayed strings are ordered as strings, without using the sematics of the first word being first name or last name. And as I said, it is perfectly visible in your screenshots.
    My comment about search also stays: on your screenshots the search feature works as I have described. It also works well on my devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faiyas View Post
    with respect i totally disagree with your comments this is nothing to do with first name or last name.

    because even with one name it does the same

    example:-

    baker
    kader

    if u press k it should show only kader matching the first letter
    but it show baker and then kader matching the first available letter
    cos k is there in baker too.
    i hope it can be fixed


    Thanks & regards
    Faiyas
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    i agree with faiyas +1
    this is what i looking for i need the name the letter start with "m"
    not the first available letter in the name
    i already ask this question above for ex what if i have the name letter involved "m" more than 10
    A......M
    Cm....A
    E....M
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    Ma...
    Me...
    Mo...

    so the contact will show(above) the first letter involved then it will show the letter start with "m"

    it has to show this below order...

    Ma...
    Me...
    Mo...
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    A......M
    Cm....A
    E....M

    its better than before..

    i hope the developer team will understand what i looking for...???

    thanks and regards,
    testvoipn79

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by testvoipn79 View Post
    i hope the developer team will understand what i looking for...???

    thanks and regards,
    testvoipn79
    Completely understand what you are looking for. Its not a 'smart' search, but basic search that you intend to have. But I am not sure if majority of users would want to go back a step in technology And the market is based on need. For your need a basic S40 search seems fine which is still available in s40 phones(I think). So when choosing a device, you can weigh the features accordingly!

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by Symbian_Neil View Post
    Completely understand what you are looking for. Its not a 'smart' search, but basic search that you intend to have. But I am not sure if majority of users would want to go back a step in technology And the market is based on need. For your need a basic S40 search seems fine which is still available in s40 phones(I think). So when choosing a device, you can weigh the features accordingly!

    ok i agree with you, s40 phones have still the same search facility,

    correct me if i am wrong Nokia 6600(no longer in the market now, but some people have it) and it was s60 guess what it had search facility exactly like s40 search.

    why u people changed the search style now in s60 phones?
    did you people get any issue or query to upgrade?

    so we have issue asking you people to change the search facility, pls consider

    Faiyas

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by faiyas View Post
    ok i agree with you, s40 phones have still the same search facility,

    correct me if i am wrong Nokia 6600(no longer in the market now, but some people have it) and it was s60 guess what it had search facility exactly like s40 search.

    why u people changed the search style now in s60 phones?
    did you people get any issue or query to upgrade?

    so we have issue asking you people to change the search facility, pls consider

    Faiyas
    PS:I dont work for Nokia, so I am hardly the decision maker

    Nokia 6600 is an old phone. So had old search feature. Search feature evolved over time as per the needs of the market. I guess, a manufacturer will try to cater to a volume and their use-case to the targetted customers and their need. I am not sure they will go backwards just for a few requests when a huge percentage are happier with the newer features

    Nokia has a range of devices with range of features, choose the one which features you like.

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    Re: Contacts Sort A-Z not work

    Quote Originally Posted by Symbian_Neil View Post
    PS:I dont work for Nokia, so I am hardly the decision maker

    Nokia 6600 is an old phone. So had old search feature. Search feature evolved over time as per the needs of the market. I guess, a manufacturer will try to cater to a volume and their use-case to the targetted customers and their need. I am not sure they will go backwards just for a few requests when a huge percentage are happier with the newer features

    Nokia has a range of devices with range of features, choose the one which features you like.

    with do respect if you are not working for nokia why do i or we Discuss this things to you?

    i thought i am talking to a Developer sorry any way if Developer see our comments it might help

    i am sure there must be people complaining regarding same issue but very few of us posting in the right place to consider

    Note: like nokia s60 3rd, 4th and 5th, edition. Nokia s40 also have 3rd edition phones in the market now, they have upgraded lots of the features but search features remains same

    thnaks
    faiyas

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    Quote Originally Posted by faiyas View Post

    with do respect if you are not working for nokia why do i or we Discuss this things to you?

    i thought i am talking to a Developer sorry any way if Developer see our comments it might help

    i am sure there must be people complaining regarding same issue but very few of us posting in the right place to consider

    Note: like nokia s60 3rd, 4th and 5th, edition. Nokia s40 also have 3rd edition phones in the market now, they have upgraded lots of the features but search features remains same

    thnaks
    faiyas
    +1

    exactly poor nokia

    regards,
    testvoipn79

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