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    RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Forget Flashlite. Nokia has announced partnership with Microsoft today at it's London investor meet and the primary platform will be windows mobile. so expect to see Microsoft Silverlight.
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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Forget Flashlite
    I dont recommend forgetting Flash Lite at all. Actually, developers are responding quite quick to today's strategy.
    the primary platform will be windows mobile. so expect to see Microsoft Silverlight.
    I do agree that Microsoft Silverlight is an alternative to Flash Lite in some cases but where Adobe says that they will not support Windows Phone 7 ? Adobe Flash support is there for Android, iPhone, Windows,Linux,Macintosh, Symbian and if i am not mistaken Flash is also available for Windows Mobile. As far as Windows Phone 7 is concerned, its new in the field and i think Adobe will support it once there are a good number of WP 7 devices around. One more reason for not forgetting Flash Lite yet is that Nokia S40 phones also support Flash Lite and if i am not wrong the current strategy doesnt affect S40 devices.
    Lets welcome the change and support Nokia .

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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Well said Sajid,

    This Nokia + Microsoft partnership is now a bigger and better reason for Adobe to invest more on WP7 and come up with a Flash support roadmap.

    Lets help Nokia in these hard times, and wish them best for days to come!

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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Ciao,

    as long as the OVI Store is alive (maybe 2 years) you can sell Flash Lite content.
    For more long term strategy is all fuzzy!

    Alessandro

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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Quote Originally Posted by sajisoft View Post
    I dont recommend forgetting Flash Lite at all. Actually, developers are responding quite quick to today's strategy.

    I do agree that Microsoft Silverlight is an alternative to Flash Lite in some cases but where Adobe says that they will not support Windows Phone 7 ? Adobe Flash support is there for Android, iPhone, Windows,Linux,Macintosh, Symbian and if i am not mistaken Flash is also available for Windows Mobile. As far as Windows Phone 7 is concerned, its new in the field and i think Adobe will support it once there are a good number of WP 7 devices around. One more reason for not forgetting Flash Lite yet is that Nokia S40 phones also support Flash Lite and if i am not wrong the current strategy doesnt affect S40 devices.
    Lets welcome the change and support Nokia .

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    Sajid Ali Anjum
    It's true that Flash is available for Windows, and widespread as we know it, but this happened long ago, in the early 2000's if I'm not mistaken. Any software can be published for Windows without their approval (and they could not change that because of antitrust law). For a mobile OS considered to be a closed platform however (like WP7 or iOS), it is perfectly normal having such restrictions.
    So for Flash Lite to be on WP7, it would involve Microsoft making a conscient decision in order to support/allow it in the way that it is currently supported by Nokia/Symbian. And saddly, because of Silverlight, I don't think it will happen. If there's one mobile OS that should not support Flash, I think it is WP7.

    For S40, yes true, it will continue, but let's be honest it's not the most exciting platform to develop for .

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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Quote Originally Posted by biskero View Post
    Ciao,

    as long as the OVI Store is alive (maybe 2 years) you can sell Flash Lite content.
    For more long term strategy is all fuzzy!

    Alessandro
    Hi Alexandro,
    I agree, and it is a shame, just when Flash Lite was finally really good with AS3 on S^3...

    Romain

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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Quote Originally Posted by chall3ng3r View Post
    This Nokia + Microsoft partnership is now a bigger and better reason for Adobe to invest more on WP7 and come up with a Flash support roadmap.
    I think Microsoft has excluded/prevented the use of Flash (and Java, and C++ and C++ based frameworks like Qt, etc.) for WP7, and more or less only permit Sliverlight to be used for WP7 app development. I recall reading that their policies are even tighter than Apple's for iOS/iPhone in this respect. Things were not so tight with earlier versions (Windows CE, Windows Mobile), but with Windows Phone 7 the rules changed.

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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Ciao,

    yeap, that's what I though too! Also don't think AIR will get into WP7.
    Let's hope that 150M Symbian devices gets sold !
    Alessandro

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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    But i think if Apple can back off from the restriction even after writing a detailed article :
    Thoughts-on-flash
    Then why not the newly born Windows Phone 7. How about an official announcement from Adobe?
    “Microsoft is committed to providing a rich Web experience while on-the-go with Internet Explorer Mobile. We are working closely with Adobe to bring the Flash Player 10.1 to a future version of Windows Phone.” - Stephanie Ferguson, general manager, Microsoft Corp.
    Reference : http://blogs.adobe.com/mobile/2010/0...or_mobile.html
    Furthermore, Adobe has announced that Flash Player 10.1 will be released for Windows Phone 7.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Phone_7
    Plus Ballmer has reportedly been talking with Adobe :
    adobe-shares-advance-on-report-that-company-met-with-microsoft
    But Yes! we need more official words to be more happy. Moreover, i dont think its all about Adobe & Microsoft but also its about Nokia. So, we have to hope for the best

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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Ciao SajiSoft,

    the main reason of Apple removing some restriction was the investigation from EU.
    Microsoft and Apple have the same DNA, preventing anyone to compete with fairness in their ground.
    Nokia was/is all about been Open with Symbian and MeeGo, now they go proprietary big time !!!
    Alessandro

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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Flash won't be abandoned after Nokia and MS partnership. It will rather bring Silverlight as yet another option for Ovi developers.
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    Re: RIP Nokia and Flashlite Welcome Silverlight

    Microsoft will be the dominant partner in Nokia- Microsoft startegy since Nokia is now only an OEM of Microsoft -like other companies( In fact like a errand boy . Microsoft will now say ' Hey you insignificant Nokia pick that shit and chuck it out' ) -so Microsoft will do every thing to promote its products. Silver light will come and Flashlite will be dumped . And Nokia doesn't have a great track record either -
    1) It partnered with Intel for Meago and dumped in favor of AMD
    2) It partnered with Yahoo for Ovi mail and now dumped in favor of Microsoft
    3) It partnered with google for mobile search now dumped in favor of Bing
    4) It partnered with companies like samsung, Ericsson etc for Symbian Foundation and now Symbian and partner firms are dumped
    5) It bought Trolltech Qt promising rapid development and after 5 years of dragging its feet it has dumped Qt
    6) It partnered with employees and investors and have dumped them in favor of greasy hands of Ballmer
    7) It partnered with the bright future and has now dumped it in favor of ignominious death
    so Adobe get ready to be dumped.
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