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    Symbian Signed renewal

    As you may already know, we are renewing Symbian Signed service during June 2011. Here you can find a list things that will change. Also feel free to ask more detailed questions in this thread.

    - The user interface is totally different from the old and much easier to use
    - One account / Publisher ID, we recommend merging multiple accounts to one
    - No need for a separate tools on your PC
    - IMEIs and UIDs needs to be in your Symbian Signed account in order to get Development Certificates and submit applications
    - No need to define capabilities for the development certificates
    - To submit applications for testing, the account needs to be verified with a Publisher ID

    We will use the 21st of June 2011 to transfer over to the new system. This means Symbian Signed will be closed during the 21st of June.

    Regards,
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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    Will it still be possible to use the separate tools on the PC to generate requests for development certificates?

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    The only tool which will be needed is the TC Trustcenter's tool used to transfer the Publisher ID from a P12 package to KEY and CER files. It will not be possible to use any other tools.

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    Quote Originally Posted by rippe View Post
    The only tool which will be needed is the TC Trustcenter's tool used to transfer the Publisher ID from a P12 package to KEY and CER files. It will not be possible to use any other tools.
    So will we have to give Symbian Signed the private key for our Publisher ID?

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    Quote Originally Posted by toby_gray View Post
    So will we have to give Symbian Signed the private key for our Publisher ID?
    If you want to give it to someone, you could rather give it to me.
    Otherwise check the documentation, http://www.developer.nokia.com/Commu...Symbian_Signed, "4. Verifying the account"

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    "One account / Publisher ID, we recommend merging multiple accounts to one" what's details?
    I have several account,what would happend after 21st of June 2011 ?

    And i have an account on nokia.symbiansigned.com, what would happend about this account?

    thanks.

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    Do we still need a Publisher Id to get a dev cert?

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    Quote Originally Posted by lithgow View Post
    Do we still need a Publisher Id to get a dev cert?
    Obviously yes. Which part of this thread appears to suggest otherwise?
    However in the likely case you are not familiar with the Ovi Publisher programme (registration costs 1 EUR), note that it grants devcert for 5 devices with user and system capabilities.

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    Quote Originally Posted by wizard_hu_ View Post
    Obviously yes. Which part of this thread appears to suggest otherwise?
    Nothing explicitly suggested that, but there are clearly major changes to the infrastructure, so I was hopeful that common sense had prevailed.

    Quote Originally Posted by wizard_hu_ View Post
    However in the likely case you are not familiar with the Ovi Publisher programme (registration costs 1 EUR), note that it grants devcert for 5 devices with user and system capabilities.
    Yes, I've already done that, thanks. It is incredibly inconvenient though -- and how do you run a beta program with only five devices?

    Compared to UIQ 3, Nokia's insistence on every app being signed and preventing easy access to developer certs without paying US$200 per year for a Publisher Id is a real barrier for casual developers, you know. And, since UIQ 3 seemed to be accepted by operators, it's not a restriction that can be blamed on them -- I'm not really sure why Nokia enforces such a restrictive practice on devices.

    Just some feedback.

    Regards,
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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    We tried to use an alternative way to authenticate users than the Publishe ID. Naturally the requirements are quite high, the what ever would have needed to be available globally with a very low cost.

    We found one option, but it was good for authenticating persons, but not for companies. Actually there was no way to tie the company name to the account in any reliable way. And using that would have opened a way for anyone to pretend to be creating an appalication for any company without a way to knowing which application came from the company and which didn't.

    I'm not loosing hope, but for now this is the case unfortunately.

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    Quote Originally Posted by lithgow View Post
    Nothing explicitly suggested that, but there are clearly major changes to the infrastructure, so I was hopeful that common sense had prevailed.
    Apparently #12 suggest that now.
    Compared to UIQ 3, Nokia's insistence on every app being signed and preventing easy access to developer certs without paying US$200 per year for a Publisher Id is a real barrier for casual developers, you know. And, since UIQ 3 seemed to be accepted by operators, it's not a restriction that can be blamed on them -- I'm not really sure why Nokia enforces such a restrictive practice on devices.
    Are you sure about that UIQ3 thing? I have no experience with it, but it was based on Symbian OS 9.1, with its platform security included. Symbian was not Nokia that time.

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    If "13" capabilities and maximum of 10IMEIs is enough, then you do not need a Publisher ID to get a development certificate. The system will create a key and cer for you.

    If you need more capabilities or IMEIs then you need to Verify your account. This is done by signing a SIS with your Publisher ID, uploading that to the system and if everything goes OK, the account is verified. The Verified status remains as long as you Publisher ID is valid. With Verified status you can get "17" capabilities and up to 1000IMEIs to the development certificate and the system will create the key and cer for you.

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    Quote Originally Posted by rippe View Post
    If "13" capabilities and maximum of 10IMEIs is enough, then you do not need a Publisher ID to get a development certificate. The system will create a key and cer for you.
    This is like the old dev cert that could be created without a Publisher Id, right? It wasn't working in the latest versions of the cert request tool.

    This is useful, thanks. I also appreciate your feedback on other efforts to get cheaper authentication.

    Regards,
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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    Quote Originally Posted by lithgow View Post
    This is like the old dev cert that could be created without a Publisher Id, right? It wasn't working in the latest versions of the cert request tool.

    This is useful, thanks. I also appreciate your feedback on other efforts to get cheaper authentication.
    Remember that it is a 'coming soon' thing. It is normal that the current tool do not support something which was revoked years ago. The new feature might be completely on-line for example, without extra tools. #16 applies anyway.

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    Re: Symbian Signed renewal

    localizationer,

    1. All your accounts will remain.
    2. We are checking the details with Ixonos if we could merge all accounts to one or how this should be done.

    Stay tuned.

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