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    What kind of secure elements in NFC nokia phones (belle)?

    Hi,
    I would like to know if all of your nfc phones (belle) are based on the secure element based in the UICC (NFC SIM) or if you have phones with embedded secure element?

    Supposing that I have a partnership with a MNO or a UICC manufacturer and that I have my cardlet installed of the UICC put in one of your NFC phone (belle), is it today possible to access the cardlet via an external reader (maybe APDU commands), in other words is it possible that the phone works in total "card emulation" mode even if the phone is off ??

    Thanks

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    Re: What kind of secure elements in NFC nokia phones (belle)?

    Hello vitop,

    and welcome to Nokia Developer Discussion Boards!

    Based on the Nokia Conversations, Symbian devices with secure element will be introduced during the first half of 2012: http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...fc-smartphone/

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    Re: What kind of secure elements in NFC nokia phones (belle)?

    Hello,
    Thanks for your answer but the link is not really detailed concerning the secure elements. I don't understand. Are there no current Nokia NFC phones (belle) supporting UICC as secure element? So, what is the use of JSR177-SATSA APDU Nokia implementation? Or maybe you just want to say that Symbian devices with EMBEDDED secure elements wil be introduced during the first half of 2012?

    And you don't answer my second question:
    Is it possible that a Nokia phone could be accessed (as it was a Mifare card for example) even if it is powerred off ??

    BR,
    Vitop

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    Re: What kind of secure elements in NFC nokia phones (belle)?

    Hello vitop,

    sorry for not being explicit about secure elements on Symbian. As of now, the previous information in the referred link is what we have currently available. About the public NFC developer offering now and in future, you might want to follow this area on developer.nokia.com: https://www.developer.nokia.com/Develop/NFC/

    Is it possible that a Nokia phone could be accessed (as it was a Mifare card for example) even if it is powerred off ??
    About your second question, that sounds unlikely.

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    Re: What kind of secure elements in NFC nokia phones (belle)?

    Hey,
    Thanks for the link, I will follow it to be informed of news.

    For your answer concerning my second question, can you please be more explicit? What sounds unlikely? that current Nokia devices acts as smartcard (javacard ) or memory card (mifare) and to be read when tapped together with an external NFC reader? or just to be read even if it is off?

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    Vitopp

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    Re: What kind of secure elements in NFC nokia phones (belle)?

    Hello Vitopp,

    About the second question: when the device is completely powered off, then (accordingly my plain logic) it would be very difficulty to make the device function in any way despite of any chance of interaction with other external (NFC) devices. Anyway that is how I see it as of now as based on the Symbian^3 devices with NFC support. For further information, I suggest following the link on Nokia Developer site for NFC which can provide further latest information about the public developer offering.

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