ok, ive read all thru here, bout refresh issues wi the 3650. dnt seem to be any solution to this. wot i want to know, is first, i dnt want the phone to cache any of my pages, i write in asp. so any help there, thanx. secondly, according to sum documentation, i got from nokia here, is that the XHTML phones, u can use wmlntimer as a body attribute? can any1 tell me if that works, and how its properly done. my guess is that it would look like this-> <body wmlntimer="http://go.there.com"> <wml:timer value="30" />