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    Carbide.c++ Express available for download

    Hello,

    The first Eclipse-based development tool for Symbian OS C++ application development has arrived! Carbide.c++ Express 1.0 is now available for download on Forum Nokia.

    Note that this is the first in a family of tools. The intent of this first release is to provide a modern yet free replacement for using the command line tools when building simple applications. The intended target customers are users that have so far been restricted to using command line, not because of choice but because of the cost associated with IDE-based development solutions. Such users include hobbyists, students, open source developers etc. Now these developers can get the benefits of improved ease-of-use and higher productivity as provided by an advanced IDE.

    The next product to be released in the Carbide.c++ family, Carbide.c++ Developer Edition, is the first tool targeting commercial developers. This tool will be available later this year.

    To download information on Carbide.c++ Express as well as the installer, go to http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,,034-1001,00.html

    To discuss Carbide.c++ Express we recommend that you use the (renamed) "Carbide.c++ and CodeWarrior Tools" discussion group (http://discussion.forum.nokia.com/fo...play.php?f=95).

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    Why Carbide.c++ Express DONOT support S60_2nd_FP2_SC SDK ? !!!

    Why Carbide.c++ Express DONOT support S60_2nd_FP2_SC SDK ? !!!

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    Re: Carbide.c++ Express available for download

    Looking at the release notes this looks pretty fundamentally broken in terms of the MMP importer.

    Plugins aren't supported, #if/#else is not supported in the MMP's, etc..

    Is there going to be a release of this product that is NOT broken in these ways? Any way we can get a estimate of when that would be actually available?

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    Re: Carbide.c++ Express available for download

    Hi,

    The target audience for Carbide.c++ Express are non-commercial developers (students, hobbyists, etc) new to Symbian and creating modestly complex applications. The importer functionality should work reasonably well for the target audience as for these developers the main emphasis most likely is on creating new projects from wizards.

    If your import needs are not met by Express, I guess you are a professional developer. The next Carbide.c++ product, Carbide.c++ Developer Edition will target the needs of commercial/professional developers and will include improved import functionality. For more information on forthcoming Carbide.c++ versions, check out the Carbide pages (http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,6566,1_84,00.html) which will be update soon with information about the next versions of Carbide.c++.

    For the time being, the recommended IDE for commercial development is CodeWarrior (3.1).

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    Re: Carbide.c++ Express available for download

    Creating ECOM plugins is exclusive to the professional developer? I AM a professional developer, but I still have to beleive that this is a fairly large hole. As even hobbyist developers (using either CW or Visual Studio) literally can't bring their projects across if they involve plugins in any way. It also prevents them from using most of the MMP syntax that might be useful in working with the particularly heteregenous development environment hobbyists work in.

    Quote Originally Posted by mitts
    Hi,

    The target audience for Carbide.c++ Express are non-commercial developers (students, hobbyists, etc) new to Symbian and creating modestly complex applications. The importer functionality should work reasonably well for the target audience as for these developers the main emphasis most likely is on creating new projects from wizards.

    If your import needs are not met by Express, I guess you are a professional developer. The next Carbide.c++ product, Carbide.c++ Developer Edition will target the needs of commercial/professional developers and will include improved import functionality. For more information on forthcoming Carbide.c++ versions, check out the Carbide pages (http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,6566,1_84,00.html) which will be update soon with information about the next versions of Carbide.c++.

    For the time being, the recommended IDE for commercial development is CodeWarrior (3.1).

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    Re: Carbide.c++ Express available for download

    Hi,

    Quote Originally Posted by npleis
    I AM a professional developer, but I still have to beleive that this is a fairly large hole. As even hobbyist developers (using either CW or Visual Studio) literally can't bring their projects across if they involve plugins in any way. It also prevents them from using most of the MMP syntax that might be useful in working with the particularly heteregenous development environment hobbyists work in.
    As I said, Carbide.c++ Express is not for everybody and therefore, for a number of reasons, not everything is supported.

    So far the tools offering for Symbian OS development has been totally unsegmented and all tools did pretty much everything for everybody. This is very costly for Nokia and does not always make commercial sense (yes, we sell some development tools and if you are a professional developer I am sure you understand that software products with more - advanced - features tend to sell for more) and giving away all you features for free does not always make commercial sense.

    So with Carbide.c++ we will segment the different products (4 all-in-all) and the free product will have the least features. Once Carbide.c++ Developer is out, I think buying it will be a total no-brainer for any commercial developer, with the features included it will pay back itself in less than a week most likely.

    So for Carbide.c++ Express, this is NOT a product that has been planned for people who already use CW and have a huge installed base of very complex projects just waiting to be ported to Carbide.c++. Carbide.c++ Express is about getting new developers enabled, people who did not get into Symbian development because the command line tools are not exactly 21st century and IDE products had a cost associated. These people are often already using Eclipse and thus will have very easy to find their way around inside Carbide.c++. As they are new, their prime way for setting up projects is to either import SDK samples or starting from scratch with the New project wizard.

    If you are doing pro work and need all the in's and out's of Symbian OS to be supported, then your time on Carbide.c++ has not come yet. Stay with us for just a little longer!

    We firmly believe that there are enough developers out there for which Express makes a ton of sense, and Express is for those. For the rest we do have a reasonably comprehensive offering with CW 3.1 and Carbide.vs 2.0. You can still try out Express and you will be very familiar with Developer once it's out.

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